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Witnesses: Obama birth lawyer told us to lie
November 11th, 2009, 5:00 am · 229 Comments · posted by Martin Wisckol, Politics reporter
A man claiming to have been Barack Obama’s homosexual lover and another claiming to have Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate say Laguna Niguel attorney Orly Taitz asked them to lie in federal court. I’ll get to the details of their affidavits with the allegations momentarily.
Taitz planned to use the two as witnesses in her effort to prove Obama was born in Kenya and is not a legitimate president. However, the case was dismissed on Oct. 29 by U.S. District Judge David O. Carter without going to trial.
In his dismissal, Carter wrote, “the Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves. This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court.”
The affidavits have not been been made public by Carter. However, in a Nov. 9 motion that criticized Carter’s dismissal of the case, Taitz identifies Larry Sinclair and Lucas Smith as the witnesses she believes filed affidavits saying that she asked them to lie. She denies the accusations and told me she thinks Sinclair and Smith filed the affidavits in response to pressure put on them.
Sinclair provided me a copy of the affidavit he said he provided to the court, and said that he mailed a copy to Taitz as well. Sinclair posted his affidavit online, and he told me that he sent Taitz a copy by e-mail.
It’s unclear if the California Bar will review those affidavits. It will, however, be reviewing a $20,000 sanction against Taitz by a federal judge in Georgia, and will determine whether it merits an investigation and possible punishment. Click here for the story on that sanction.
Smith claims to have bribed a Kenyan official in February and obtained this document, which he says is Obama’s 1961 Kenyan birth certificate. Click here to read more about the document and how Smith came into possession of it. Among those calling the document a fake is World Net Daily’s Jerome Corsi, in this analysis and this story. WND has typically supported various allegations that Obama’s presidency is illegitimate, and has reported sympathetically on Taitz’s legal efforts.
Among allegations made in the affidavit from Smith is that Taitz asked him to say that he was the one who obtained a document that was alleged to be a 1964 Republic of Kenya Certified Copy of
Registration of Birth of Barack Hussein Obama II. That document had been called a forgery by experts and in his affidavit, Smith said his research also concluded that the document was fake.
(It bears noting that Smith attempted to sell the 1961 birth certificate on eBay, but his auction was taken down by eBay administrators.)
Smith also said that after he nearly stepped in front of a car driving down the street, Taitz “wanted me to give testimony in the Honorable Judge David O. Carter’s courtroom that there had been an ‘attempt on my life’…”
Taitz was hoping to have Smith testify at a Sept. 8 administrative hearing, and was pleading with Carter to hear Smith’s story before any trial. Taitz told the court that Smith’s life was in danger because the Obama administration did not want the information to get out.
This is where Larry Sinclair, Obama’s alleged gay lover, enters the picture. In his book, “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?,” Sinclair writes that he twice performed oral sex on Obama in November 1999 and that the two got high on coke together. Sinclair also alleges that Donald Young, choir director at Obama’s Chicago church, had homosexual relations with Obama. Young was shot to death shortly before the 2008 Iowa caucus, a killing Sinclair says Obama may have had a hand in.
According to Sinclair’s affidavit, Taitz wanted Sinclair to testify in order to bolster the case that lives were in danger and the case should be expedited.
But, Sinclair says in his affidavit, one murder apparently wasn’t enough for Taitz.
“Orly Taitz stated, ‘Larry, I want you to testify that three members of Obama’s church were murdered.’ I interrupted Orly Taitz at this time and informed her, ‘Dr. Taitz, I told you when you contacted me in December 2008 you were spreading false claims, there was not three members of Obama’s church murdered.’” Sinclair says in the affidavit.
Sinclair also says that Taitz asked him to identify for the court a birthmark on Obama, which Sinclair said he had not in fact seen.
Taitz said she “absolutely did not” ask Smith to say the 1964 certificate came from him, and “absolutely did not” ask him to say there had been an attempt on his life. She said she talked to Sinclair about other deaths in the church but did not ask him to lie, and denied his other allegations as well.
“There was some kind of pressure on Lawrence Sinclair and Lucas Daniel Smith to stop working with me,” Taitz said.
Pressure from whom?
“I don’t know who,” she said.
Sinclair says the only pressure he felt was from Taitz and her backers.
“I had gone out of my way to not be associated with her in any way, but she continued to try and pull me and my story into her cases,” Sinclair wrote me in an email. “I have not been pressured except by the constant attacks from her and her supporters because I would not make statements that I knew to be false.”
In his affidavit, Smith repeatedly expresses frustration with Taitz’ inability to address the lawsuit effectively.
“… it began to become clearer and clearer to me that Orly Taitz had no understanding of the law,” he said. “I came to an exhaustive conclusion that Orly Taitz may be the ‘Birthers’ worst nightmare. Outside of paying attention to her own voice at length, Orly Taitz has the attention span of a small child….”
“I knew that there was nothing further that I could do to convince Orly Taitz that we should fight this case with truths and documentation rather than her campaign of fighting Obama lies with Orly lies.”
Click here to read Smith’s affidavit. Beware that there is explicit discussion of Taitz alleged sexual behavior.
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The republican loves to spread this phoney stories, with the defense that they are just trying to get to the truth. Now we see the problem, if republican leaders continue to suppoprt the ridiculous we will have open season on kooks and crazys.
I would love a hannity follow up to this bs rumor. I an a national syndicated TV show but I got hoodwinked by a couple of 2 cent cons.
I don’t think I have yet heard a name in my life that makes me want to yack as much as this chicks… blahhHHH!
This woman is beyond evil!
You’re willing to state that “This woman is beyond evil!” based on the claims of these two witnesses? Given the totality of their claims that’s interesting. Just where does the credulity you extend to them begin and end? And Why?
Dude, you don’t have to listen to these two j’mokes to know that Taitz is viciously stupid.
They are just icing on a previously baked cake.
go away.
You’re willing to state that the claims of these two witnesses is “just icing on a previously baked cake?” Given the totality of their claims that’s interesting. Just where does the credulity you extend to them begin and end? And Why?
Why? Because they were her cronies and she was too whacko even for them.
There are affadavits from Orly’s own staff claiming she wanted them to lie too. See the Liberi v. Taitz case.
With the case so close to trial and Obama and spending millions of dollars for a legal team working so hard to hide and cover his background… it is NOT TOO far fetched to think that Dr. Taiz’s witnesses were well paid to change their stories.
I might even read Larry Sinclair’s, [Obama’s alleged gay lover,] book, “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?,” for a laugh!!!
Where’s the Birth Certificate?!
ANOTHER ONE???
I thought all of you Grassy Knoll types were required to take your meds. Whassup?
So you believe the Warren report. Well it must be true, after all big brother says so.
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.
Taking our meds? The Cool-Aid, you mean!
Cheers.
This woman has committed fraud in court. She needs to be punished both for falsifying documents / witness testimonies and continuing to waste the courts’ time.
Ted, I wouldn’t want you on MY joury!
ah, it’s jury…genius and why would you need one, again?
a misspelling is a misspelling, big deal. get off your high horse dude.
Based on an affidavit, per this article - which could be false?
Any waste is responding to you.
IT’S ORLEY TAITZ FLYING CIRCUS!…..1964 birth cert. huh? Obama was born in 1961 .sex with obama? right….another kook for the circus…drugs? right ..PROVE IT !yet again another example of the intellectually challenged mind set of the obama haters.Make up the most insane claims and beleive they will be taken seriously.But just watch how many stand up for or defend these nuts today.lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Umm, someone needs to do some proofreading or factchecking:
a 1964 Republican of Kenya Certified Copy of
Registration of Birth??
“Republican” of Kenya?? Freudian slip??
With the case so close to trial and Obama and spending millions of dollars for a legal team working so hard to hide and cover his background… it is NOT TOO far fetched to think that Dr. Taiz’s witnesses were well paid to change their stories.
I might even read Larry Sinclair’s, [Obama’s alleged gay lover,] book, “Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder?,” for a laugh!!!
Where’s the Birth Certificate?!
Looks like Martin edited his story. You’re welcome.
There goes the end of this nonsense, and hopefully, the end of her (career?) If you can call it a career…
At least she still has her dental practice…for now anyway.
Bye bye, Ms. Taitz. I enjoyed your craziness for a little while.
You have to love the Republican spins doctors-what sore losers
We’ll trade you for Rosie O’Donnell and her Hollywood goofball buddies who claim Bush planned 9-11. I think that’s an even trade.
most definitely!
to quote Donald Trump, “I’d look Rosie right in that big fat head of hers and say Rosie, yuh fired!”
Did she take him to court? I didn’t think so.
Not enough there to trade, padnuh.
Bush didn’t plan 9/11, but he was a reason why it happend. His disengagement from the Middle East Peace process (Palestine/Israel) was a mistake.
Bin Laden wanted to teach him a personal lesson. It worked.
so who’s at fault for fort hood last week? way to go obama… seems like the middle east really appreciates all those nice talks you’ve been giving.
Orly Taitz use to be $25.00 at the corner of Washington and Figuearoa - that was in the early 90’s.
HAHA!!! Another crazy republicant that cannot handle the idea of a black man as the president! Orley get’s crazier ever day
the rest of us Americans can handle that he just sucks.
Don’t include normal, rational Americans in this.
Normal rational Americans who chant?
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
And teach elementary school children to sings praises to Obama?
Yeah. That’s normal and rational.
Hey Erin! Demoncrats lie and cheat at least as much as Republicans do. You have no standing when it comes to honesty.
Nope. Republicans lie and cheat so much they no longer know what the lies they created are anymore.
Care to tell me why pretty much every single person caught in the Jack Abramoff scandal was a Republican?
Care to tell me why the common word on the street in Washington DC that if a gay prostitution ring was busted and it’s client list revealed every politician listed would be Republican?
Yet another example of why these people that think crazy people are just “sick and need help” need to be smacked. These crazy people shouldn’t be allowed to walk around. Lock them up, throw away the key, then throw away the room. That way they don’t breed or spread their insanity among society.
Here’s a news tip. The state of Hawaii has a easy, legal way they could confirm the authenticity of Obama’s alleged birth certificate … something they have not done yet. Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18(d) says they must release to the public the index data for vital records consisting of name, gender and type of vital event. Requests to secure index data related to the birth certificate number photographed at Fact Check.com have been refused by the state. Hawaii released index data for Obama when requested by his name, but they won’t release the data for that certificate number. It should be the same index data. What are they hiding??
great question, I’ve been wondering that myself.
They’re hiding nothing. They’ve produced the documents. Move on to another conspiracy theory.
No, this absolutely false. They issued two statements in which neither confirmed that the COLB posted by Obama or allegedly photographed by Fact Check was authentic.
Don’t confuse Obama supporters with facts.
They only march to rhyming platitudes.
Wrong again. From last October:
HONOLULU — The state’s Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate.
The state has received multiple requests for a copy of Obama’s birth certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth certificate of a person to someone outside of the family. …
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i StateDepartment of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i,” Fukino said.
But hey, why confuse this discussion with facts, when you seem to be doing so well distorting them?
Stephen2, read the words in the statement and not the ignorant paraphrasing of the reporter who wrote the story. The official statement does NOT say that the COLB posted by Obama is genuine. The health director merely states that she confirmed that an original birth certificate is on file. She does not say whether the information on that BC matches the information on his COLB … and in fact, she hides behind the law to AVOID saying it.
ksdb: “The official statement does NOT say that the COLB posted by Obama is genuine. ”
It is completely IRRELEVANT whether the certificate posted by Obama is genuine or not (though of course it is). The point is that the Director of Health for the State of Hawaii says that there is an original birth certificate for Barack Obama in the records of the state of Hawaii and that he has seen and testifies to its authenticity. THat’s all that matters and that’s all that anyone can legally do. The fact that it’s not nearly enough for you has more to do with your mental problem than reality.
Stephen, she didn’t testify to the authenticity of the BC that the state has on file; she has merely said that she has confirmed that they have one on file. It might say he was born in Kenya for all we know.
Myth: Under Hawaii’s Revised Statutes §338-18, the people of the US have a direct and tangible interest in Obama’s birth certificate
Fact: §338-18 clearly outlines who is included in the category of direct and tangible interest. The closest interest to the one described above seems to be “(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”
In order to obtain a certified copy under court order of a competent jurisdiction, the ‘People of the US’ have to show that they have a vested interest and standing. Andy Martin tried in Hawaii and failed
§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
(1) The registrant;
(2) The spouse of the registrant;
(3) A parent of the registrant;
(4) A descendant of the registrant;
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
(8) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
(c) The department may permit the use [of] the data contained in public health statistical records for research purposes only, but no identifying use thereof shall be made.
(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
(e) The department may permit persons working on genealogy projects access to microfilm or other copies of vital records of events that occurred more than seventy-five years prior to the current year.
(f) Subject to this section, the department may direct its local agents to make a return upon filing of birth, death, and fetal death certificates with them, of certain data shown to federal, state, territorial, county, or municipal agencies. Payment by these agencies for these services may be made as the department shall direct.
(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]
OC, read part D:
(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
Note the last two words. A direct and tangible interest is NOT required for obtaining the index data for a vital record. This would be the law that would have enabled the state of Hawaii to publish birth announcements in newspapers. At one time, more data was allowed to be release other than the nae, sex and type of vital event. Through this part of the statute, they should happily be able to confirm the authenticity of the photographs of the alleged COLB posted by Fact Check.com.
First you have to read B.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.
In D note the words “may authorize.” You guys don’t have standing in the court of law. you don’t have a direct and tangible interest in the record. Based on B and D the director chosed not to authorize the release of the record.
OC, the direct and tangible interest requirement only applies to copies of vital records, not the index data, hence the reason it says it ‘SHALL be made available to the PUBLIC.’ The part about ‘may authorize’ only refers to additional information beyond name, sex and type of vital event. Part B does not apply to Part D.
(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
“I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i StateDepartment of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i,” Fukino said.
#1 “Index Data” only means that the information on Obama’s birth certificate can be used in a database file concerning how many people of what sex etc. have been born in the state. It doesn’t mean releasing his birth certificate to the public.
#2 The director has already personally confirmed and made available to the public the information that they have Obama’s birth certificate on file.
#3 You and Orly Taitz ate nuts.
Stephen2, you’re having a hard time here. Pay attention.
#1: Nobody said that releasing the index data is the same thing as releasing the original BC to the public. If they have vital records on file and they index data is requested, then they have to give the name, sex and type of vital event as listed in the database. If no record exists, then they have to state that no record exists.
#2: This isn’t accurate. They confirmed they have a BC. They did NOT confirm what information is on the BC and if it matches any information in the alleged COLB posted by Obama or Fact Check.
#3: Grow up.
“They confirmed they have a BC.”
They did NOT confirm that they have “a BC” They confirmed that they have Barack Obama’s birth certificate. So unless you can produce another Barack Obama who was born in Hawaii on the same date, anything else you have to say is completely irrelevant to the issue.
Stephen, it’s not irrelevant. We don’t know what information is on the original birth certificate, but we do know that the state of Hawaii has not confirmed whether the alleged COLB posted by Obama is legit. As a public figure, there should be no reason that Hawaii cannot get permission from Obama to simply release the original certificate.
Since Obama can hide his Birth Certificate behind this Hawaii Statute, all the more reason for him to be forthcoming to show his original Birth Certificate…. which he has not done.
Right, OC??
One day, Obama will have a presidential library and museum, but the rooms dedicated to his childhood will be empty,
I have an idea. Sue the State of Hawaii to release the information.
OC, why should anyone have to do that?? Our first Kenyan-Kansan-Hawaiian-Indonesian POTUS promised transparency, so the state of Hawaii should gladly follow his directive and just give it out. Do they fear Obama will sue them for violating his privacy??
Since you can’t show us your original birth certificate (no state hands out the original, only a certified copy) doesn’t that mean you were born in Mexico?
All you right wing nutjobs, pay close attention:
If Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, his birth certificate wouldn’t be on file or available for the Director to actually SEE.
It would be physically be somewhere else.
Can you provide any reasonable proof Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii? We’ve been waiting a long, long time for that. The evidence of his birth is actually in Hawaii. There is no evidence of his being born anywhere else.
It’s really not that difficult, if you’re sane, logical and rational.
Hawaii and other states do not allow birth certificates to be public record and as a consequence citizens born in these states have very low odds of having their identity stolen.
Also to have a foreign born child registered in Hawaii they have to be born after 1983 to US citizens who lived in Hawaii for at least a year. The reason that is allowed is that it makes getting a birth certificate for US citizens born outside the US to US citizens a lot easier.
As per the law allowing this the place of birth is written down as the country the child was born in.
Note the date 1983. It is not retroactive. Also there are two newspaper announcement and Hawaii like several other states get their birth info from the state health department.
The CIA, Secret Service, FBI, numerous other gov’t agencies, colleges, universities, the Department of the Treasury all have inquired and confirmed he was born in Hawaii. Obama at numerous times in his life had to provide a US birth certificate that was then authenticated.
You don’t even know what that statue actually says.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.HTM
(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.
Oh and it’s factcheck.org. As far as they are concerned Obama was born in Hawaii and the certificate provided by his campaign is the certifacte that Hawaii hands out to authorized people who request them.
Obama, Educated street playa & con man.
Take your racism somewhere else…
It’s not racism if it’s accurate………
And its not accurate, so therefore its racism.
So your disire to see Obama removed from office is based on your racist views of Americans of African descent.
OC ain’t too bright.
He/She quotes a law, a Hawaii Statute, to defend Obama covering up his birth certificate.
Then claims those who are using the Constitution to determine the
authencity of OBama’s citizenship, as racists.
Frankie, If you believe Obama isn’t an American citizen and this is all part of some sort of conspiracy, you’re not too bright.
I said the one dipchit who described Obama as a stereotype street hustler. had a racist view of Obamo. Notice the way he/she spelled the worl Playa?
eviltwin says:
November 11, 2009 at 7:50 amObama, Educated street playa & con man.
This woman is pathetic! This just gets worse and worse. Her credentials need to be cancelled, , and she needs to be punished for this waste of the courts time.
Hopefully, the FBI will thoroughly investigate who and/or what political leaders orchestrated this fraudulent and corrupt abuse of the legal process. Most importantly, who paid this “attorney” to defame President of the United States of America Barack Obama? This is an obvious conspiracy to destroy individuals that publicly speak in matters of public concern and safety.
If she is right do you think the government would let her get away with exposing him? I think that would be a great big NO. I’m not a republican by the way. I’m just not naive.
Get her another hobby!!
Ignorami.
She put herself through both Dental School and Law School, after immigrating from then Communist-controlled Eastern Europe.
Frankly, she needs to go back.
The adult entertainment industry already told her no way. But she is working up her next claim and scam for them too.
eviltwin…Please take your meds and keep your third grade thoughts to yourself. This woman is obviously related to you.
This POS needs to be disbarred and deported back to Russia.
Put it to rest already!
Orly is on a mission to save our country! Impeach Obama Now!
ION.org
Suborning perjury hardly counts as saving anything.
If she is guilty of same, she needs to be disbarred and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
This sounds like Treason to me. Hang her and hang her high!
Wayne
Just like most Orange County stories filled with xenophobia and homophobia.
I hope they oust this Communist President and take all his cronies with him. He is a liar and a fraud!
“He is a liar and a fraud!”
This is the way I felt about GW Bush.
You’re both right.
Thank you for the same thoughts I have. These people are deff, dumb and blind to all the lies and deception and bullying of this man that calls himself our president. He has lied and decieved the people of the USA and it keeps on getting worse and worse. He is selling out America and if they can’t see what’s happening than they are not listening and are just plain ignorant and ill informed to what is going on. They think he is the Messiah.
What a freak show.
where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. Someone should keep looking…
Yeah, why don’t you spend your money doing it?
eviltwin: what would be the reason for impeachment? That he is ‘african american?’
You are as crazy as orly..
Reason for impeachment is that he lied and deceived the people. All the czars he chooses are a bunch of communists and are all out to change America for the worse. He is not capable or experienced enough to run the country. He has caused the racisim in America to pop up again. Everything that anyone says is automatically racist if it’s against the president. He has taken away free speech and has slapped the people of New York in the face with such dis-respect for the 911 victims that he is bringing those killing machines that call themselves human to New York for trial against the wishes of the people. That is pure dis-respect for the people who lost their loved ones on 911 and will be a circus for New Yorkers. He’s giving these animals what they want and going against his own people. He’s a failure as a president and has to kiss the butts of our enemys.
the fact that obama is black is of no consequence.
eviltwin says:
November 11, 2009 at 7:50 amObama, Educated street playa & con man.
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I think this statement proves your true feelings.
And whats the color of you skin, OC?
Why is Orly Taitz NOT in jail? It sounds like so far she’s committed perjury, been involved in witness tampering and she also might be guilty of trying to illegally overthrow the government.
What sane person would trust her as a lawyer? Heck, I wouldn’t even trust her to clean my teeth!
My history with the California State Bar Court only proves that they protect lawyers, not the public (even though that is their stated mission).
Orly Taitz has nothing to fear regarding being sanctioned or suspended from the bar.
Now if the Register wants a real investigative report idea, investigating State Bar complaints and how many go unpunished, they would be shocked to find the Bar does not care about bad lawyers.
What mindset divides everything that happens in the Universe into a Democrat/Republican game?
The Republican Party is born out of President Abraham Lincoln and the horrific Civil War to end slavery. The Republican message is that “No-one needs to be a slave; every individual begins with the rights and responsibilities of a free man/woman.” Republicans can only be proud of their origins.
As for this particular issue: I have no idea what the facts are; but, for the sake of this country, let it go. Let our President do his job. The election is finished, the past is past. Stand behind our President.
Understand that he leads all of us.
They don’t use lie detectors anymore? This would show who’s lying.
Lie detectors are completely unreliable, and for that reason, any “evidence” obtained from a lie detector is categorically inadmissible in federal courts, and the courts of almost every state in the U.S.
Her paralegal is a ex-lawyer felon that has been disbarre in 3 states including CA. She has been smacked down by the court. Now, she’s asking people to perjure themselves. Not only should she be disbarred, she should be jailed for conspiricy and contempt of court.
It cracks me up how dilusional her supporters despite facts. It is evident birthers will never change their minds and will grasp at any innuendo, lie and fabrication to support thier positions. Koko has better reasoning skills.
Wow, a wingnut birther who lies? what a shocker!! I think she should be severely punished for wasting tax dollars and court resources with her drivel.
stay in the alley where you belong kat
Orly Taitz,
You still smoking at night! If you do not like our President,
why do you and your family go back to Chişinău, Moldavian SSR.
Puhleez. Taitz came to this country and tried to overturn the government, albeit through the Court. Disbar, fine, imprison and then deport this fraud back to Russia.
Goulag, anybody?
Maybe ACORN will hire her. They need more crazies to use taxpayer dollars for lying, cheating and engaging in criminal acts.
Let the truth reign!
Didn’t anyone learn anything from Reefer Madness?
If you have a problem with someone, at least use meaningful and truthful allegations against them. If you can’t prove something, honestly, then keep your mouth shut and move on.
Republicans and Democrats are equally guilty of this kind of malfeasance!
lol…Obama had a gay lover? There is no end to crazy chick’s agenda.
Oily Taste will be on a stripper pole by next year
Orly needs to get disbarred, sent back to Russia to sew sweaters
Will this lady give it a rest already! Can you stop giving her press!!
So who’s fault is it that she’s not resting?
The media who’s reporting it?
Or you not forced to read about it?
Sometimes things are too good to be true. I just know all lawyers and politicians lie through their teeth.
I truly believe that one day the truth will come out that Barrack Obama is in fact a Nigerian born, crack smoking, homosexual. Unfortunately by that time, the frame work of a police state will be complete and there will be nothing that we can do about it. Obama will prove to be the last elected President of the United States.
They can treat people like you with medication nowadays. Way better than electroshock.
Josh knows.
He was nuetralized that way to become an ObamaBot:
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
This makes as much sense as a rumor that Sarah and Todd Plain engaged in a ménage à trois with Rush Limbaugh in 2001.
Ugh!
“Obama will prove to be the last elected President of the United States.”
Incorrect. The last elected president was Bill Clinton. George W Bush was appointed to the post by the Supreme Court.
This all sounds like the plot for a third rate movie. Russian émigré obtains a correspondence course “law degree.” She then teams up with the anti-American, avowed secessionist, “American” Independence Party (Todd Palin is a former member) in an attempt to persuade the Court to overturn the US government. (Maybe she thought, “Those stupid Americans will let any ole’ foreigner come in and use the courts against their own best interests”).
The goal: Get Sarah Palin into the White House with Todd as her right hand man. All strings to be pulled by the AIP. After all, the AIP, one of the recent plaintiffs, brags about how they made Sarah Palin and how she marched to their orders:
{Friday, Oct 10, 2008 03:18 PDT
Meet Sarah Palin’s radical right-wing pals
Extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll helped launch Palin’s political career in Alaska, and in return had influence over policy. “Her door was open,” says Chryson — and still is.
By Max Blumenthal and David Neiwert
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/index.html }
The star of the cheap movie, Taitz, makes slanderous remarks about judges who have presided over her “suits.” She engages in witness tampering. She encourages witness to perjure themselves. She encourages military personnel to side with her (Is this treasonous?).
In short, after having been admitted into the US, Taitz abuses all of her new found freedoms and tries to destroy the country that welcomed her.
Destorying her country because she uses her own money - paid to the US Court System - for a cause she’s allowed to due as a US Citizen.
You’re insane.
Frankly, that’s the same reasoning birthers have to prove Obama wasn’t born in America.
You have a lot in common.
Orley better watch her back……I don’t think you could safely go against obama. I agree where’s there’s smoke there’s fire. obama refusing to put this to rest, judges agreeing to hear the case then dismissing it. Strong armed into it? It could of been settled a long time ago if he wasn’t trying to hide something.
Judge after Judge has told you guys that they don’t have the authority to investigate the President. Congress has the power to it. Take it up with your representative
Try reading the The United States Constitution or review the cases that have been dismissed based on the US Constitution to understand the law and the power given to congress.
But OC, isn’t that racist?
Please tell me why my post is racist.
Side note. Palin is so damn crazy that even Faux News is calling her out! Palin’s latest paranoid conspiracy theory is that the new White House has tampered with the “In God We Trust” line on coins-and for nefarious reasons.
The truth? It was the Bush Administration that redesigned the coin moved the line from the center to the edge.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/fox-news-fact-checks-sara_n_353210.html
I’m surprised the Aethists and other Christian-haters aren’t asking that the YEAR be removed from our currency - and every document used by the Government.
Then again, most aren’t bright enough to know what the number stands for.
do you have a though of your own. this is from the Rush radio show.
Re Lucas Smith’s affidavit: Birther P. orn on veterans day…dearie me.
So, If I have this right, Orly Taitz’s position is that the *only* thing convicted felon Lucas Smith is telling the truth about, is the Kenyan BC?
If you believe Smith’s claim that Orly asked him to lie, then you would have to trust his integrity that the 1961 Kenyan birth certificate is genuine, no??
I cannot believe i’m reading this in a real newspaper.
Are you kidding! The OC Register wouldn’t even put Pres. Obama’s picture on the front page, the day after his victory last November. They tried to pretend his election didn’t happen.
I’m a Republican. 99.9% of Republicans would like this creepy dentist to go away. Obama is the President, and that’s it. We didn’t vote for him, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles. Hopefully, this lady and her fellow kooks can now drift into obscurity and the OCR will quit running articles about non-issues.
What’s wrong with a creepy dentist excercising her right as a US Citizen to use the Courts? Or maybe you’re not actually a Republican, but a Libtard who believes the Courts should be politicized to favor one party over another.
HA the “baby” who made that newborn footprint on that “document” had to be what, sixty pounds? It’s about three times the size of a newborn footprint. How fake can you get?
Have you seen pictures of Obama as a baby?? He was a fat kid, so he might have been a ginormous baby … and speaking of fake, look at the COLB that he posted.
That’s the way it is with right-wing paranoids. They will always have crazy theories about Obama. Some of these same people will see a dentist and complain that the CIA has placed a receiver in their tooth.
Even if the dentist shows them an x-ray to prove there is nothing there, they will counter that the dentist is “in the bag for Obama and working for the CIA:” or, they will say the device has just drifted to another part of their body.
Then why has Obama spent $1.4 million of taxpayer money to block America from seeing his birth certificate?
That’s right. Because it wasn’t reported to you on the 30-minunte evening alphabet news.
How Crazy is it REALLY ???
The Government can hide anything it wants.. there is so much
true junk Americans don’t really know Cause the MEDIA won’t WRITE
IT… And Politcians won’t speak up….
Just like the Magic Bullet that Killed Kennedy…. How many Believe that
and Bill Clinton didn’t have Sexual relations with Monica.. & had nothing to do with White WATER… what was they hidding???
COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP…
Here are 2 early predictions for 2010: 1) Orly Taitz will be disbarred in California; 2) She and the other birther crazies will disappear.
It doesn’t matter what the Oily Taintz supporters say. Two men that supported her recognized her lunacy and called her out on it. Instant decreditation. Simply put. Stay tuned for the next episode of “As the Taitz Turns”
Has anyone called him an “obamanation” yet? I think that would be a funny one.
Seriously, no matter what he does none of the crazy republicans (not all are crazy) will be happy. He could poop gold coins and get us out of this mess and they would still complain!
Us democrates had to put up with 8 years of Bush. Just deal with it.
He’s still trying to hide the fact that he is the bastard son of registered communist Frank Marshall Davis, but the truth is written all over his face. In these times of terror FMD Jr would sure make a better potus name than BHO Jr. Proof once again that God has a sense of humor and irony.
YOU ARE GONNA WICH YOU HAD BUSH BACK BEFORE OBAMA LEAVES OFFICE,,!! I WOULD BET MY LIFE ON IT !! I HAVE A FEELING WE ARE ALL GONNA PAY BEFORE ITS OVER !!
HISTORY DOES NOT ENTRUST THE CARE OF FREEDOM TO THE WEEK OR TIMID (D.D EISENHOWER)
We’re already paying for the Bush legacy of spend, spend now and have the next guy pick up the tab.
Obama tripled the debt that Bush left and is continueing to spend and tax all of us out of our savings and food on the table and everything else that he can think of to tax us on.
did anyone read the affidavit?
everyone involved in this is creepy, dirty, and crooked.
republicans should be praying this “lady” and her entourage of shadiness disappears as fast as possible.
if they are going to get back into office, it won’t be because they expose obama for not being an american citizen.
concentrate on fixing the economy and keeping my money in my pocket.
that is how republicans will get back in control.
This issue isn’t about getting Republicans back in control, but more of a matter of upholding the U.S. Constitution … something Obama allegedly swore to do, but botched it.
Very well said.
I agree, , everyone involved does seem to be creepy, dirty or crooked. For those that think there may be something to this ugly rumor about Obama, , these people destroy your credibility entirely. If you are truely concerned, this is not the bandwagon to be attached to, , as a matter of fact, , run like crazy, , in the opposite direction from these people.
As I predicted the president after Bush is only worse-he is one who perfectly represents the american people-he is the son of Satan here to put a final end to all of your misery.
I hope it’s a head shot.
Don’t say that matteroftime! That would mess up television for millions of voting democrats that spend all day at home watching Oprah and The View! It would go on for weeks!
2004 Obama aka Barry Sotero was proud of the fact he was born in Kenya. Story from Associated Press.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
NOW will the California State Bar do something? For heaven’s sakes lawyers who tell witnesses to lie get disbarred.
File complaints against her at http://www.calbar.ca.gov go to “attorney complaints”
Why is this even getting any attention? What a waste of time!
As I understand it, Taitz had her real-estate license revoked by the state of California because of complaints from prospective buyers that she was “steering” people of color away from areas in which she was involved with selling properties.
Considering the source, I think it’s safe to assume that Orly Taitz crusade against Obama is tainted by her obvious bigotry and those who support her Full Moon Crazy actions.
She needs to answer for her MOONBAT insanity before a board of the California State Bar Association.
This SUBPOENA IN A CIVIL CASE is now PAST DUE:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/obama/third.circuit/subpoena/
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a)
What is a “Private Attorney General?!!!” Are you a lawyer? Are you a State Attorney General, or this a self-made title?
I guess if it doesn’t exist, then there is nothing to provide. I could subpeona you for proof of intelligence, but if it doesn’t exist, there is nothing to provide.
How can you get away with adding Phil Berg to your subpoena when he knew nothing about it?
Yup, Orly is crazy as a loon, big time and that’s a fact.
I’m neither a Dem or a Republican but I have no axe to grind regarding Obama, the guy is trying to sort out one huge mass that he inherited from a total moron IMHO !
the “encycylopediadramatica” definition of Orly Taitz seems to be RIGHT ON,…
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Orly_Taitz
We have a fake president that is being protected by the legal systems - where is the birth certificate????????????????????????????? - All his records sealed that says it all - a fraud communist - white hating Chicago street person.
I doubt most sincerely that the hidden records of Everything Obama is for nothing. From birth to university to work post graduation, Obama’s paper trail has been locked tighter than a clam shell. Only the innocent and naive believe that this is for nothing. Silly goobers–too bad your voting.
Why would someone,Obama,spend 1.4 million dollars to stop the citizens from seeing his actual birth certificate,aid papers from college,and all transcripts? If you have nothing to hide why spend 1.4 million dollars?Because, you were born in Kenya,raised in Hawai and got support as a international student. Which means you’re a liar and cannot be a U.S. president.
Now they got Lou Dobbs! Quick — check under the bed — I think they are out to get all of you!
I just love coming to the OC register. it’s so funny to read all the right wing bs that comes from you people. I think you all have GED’s from the Rush/Beck school of hate.Not one of you right wingers out there has a though or there own. You just repeat what Rush or Glen said. must be alot of klans men out there.
These Birther crazies are a big political help to Obama. When independents and moderates see such stupidity taking over the Republican Party, they feel they have no choice but to support the Democrats. Glenn Beck, Rush, all these folks are in it for the money, and don’t care that they are damaging the chances of the Republican Party. As long as they can get 25% of the population all wound up and watching their shows and advertisers, they don’t care that they are handing the other 75% to Obama.
Wake up guys. Obama is strong arming those who do not agree. That is the solinsky model that Obama studied and those he brought into the white house. They did it first to Hillary,then sara and now this poor women. Read this article that shows how Obama fired a inspector General (Gerald Walpin) because he did not eco obamas opinion and recently was vindicated. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115726
oly’s second citizenship is rather interesting. Mossad written all over this as well.
This really should be filed under entertainment instead of government and politics.
WHAT IS THE AMOUNT SPENT BY OBAMA TO”COVER UP”? i HAVE READ HEAR 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT NUMBERS.aRE SOME OF YOU GETTING IT FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE? DOES RUSH CLAIM ONE NUMBER WHILE BECK CLAIMS A SECOND AND WHO KNOWS WHAT KNUTJOB CLAIMS A THIRD?And what proof is there actuaklly for these claims?Never read one shred of creadible or otherwise fgacts about this .You wingnuts will believe anything .I guess thats why you all believe palin is some kinda super genius who’s just hiding the fact or that orley taitz is somehow a creadible person.The wingnuty circus will continue though .At least it’s good comedy.
well, now that both sides have had their say, Mr. President, show us your birth certificate!
“Why, IF he has nothing to hide, has Obama and his administration spent over $1.7 million dollars to seal his recorded history SINCE he became President? AND, why, on his FIRST DAY as POTUS did he write an Executive Order to SEAL those documents from all eyes — Federal agencies as well as private?”
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In scanning through the “comments” here; it becomes obvious why America has degenerated from the once proud, productive nation that President Dwight Eisenhower left us to the pitiful nationalism and patriotism so evident today. LOOK at these “comments”! 90% of them give evidence of how dumbed down our population is! They, the posters, can only attack the carrier of a different opinion BUT THEY can not and WILL not respond with logical arguments.
ATTACK the messenger that carries bad news OR opposing FACTS — that’s their ONLY approach being intellectually challenged OR totally dishonest whichever the case may be .. or, both?
Michael Savage is most correct when he says: “Liberalism is a mental disorder.” Many of the posters here give proof to that fact.
Here is the only fact that is pertinent:
Barack Obama is the President of the United States.
The onus is on the birthers who come up with some of the craziest Internet propaganda I have ever seen. Just when you think you’ve read it all, someone comes up with a story about lobotomizing Kenyan tribe members so they don’t rat on Obama.
And then you have Juan who keeps his rantings on two different computers to protect his works from being “scrubbed” by the Obama Administration.
Sometimes you just have to call a whacko a whacko.
BTW, you’ve just attacked every Obama supporter with your last ad hominem paragraph. Hypocrite.
Alterego calling someone a hypocrite…I would take that as a compliment…it is obviously to big of a word for him to comprehend.
I would advise you stick to only one syllable words…anything more is probably going to cause you to start drooling….
Did you forget to put your leash and helmet on today before fun time?
I’ll stack my intellect and knowlege of history and politics against yours any day any time. My comment was entirely factual. I can’t help it you are so confused. Find a posting of mine that was hypocritical and I’ll give you a dollar in your Paypal account.
You have bragged before about your extensive library and readings…and I have already told you before…I was a fan of Dr. Zeuss when I was like 5…I tend to read books that have smaller letters and less pictures these days…you should try it some time…
and intillect indeed
when you’re in a hightened state of Denial, as you and yours must be, it is common to react by acting and speaking in a delusional way. It will pass.
in the months and years ahead, you’ll come to a point in your life where even your own crap will start to smell. This is important. It will mark the beginning of your return to “normalcy”
Until then, avoid using sharp, pointy untensils while eating and NEVER, EVER share your delusions with others.
I think your speaking from experience….is that what you are saying?
Does that mean you stopped believing in that grassy knoll thing??
for Barry and Tranceam:
I’m glad we have you two around. Seriously. How reliable and comforting, in a very strange way, to know that certain types can ALWAYS be counted on to make me feel grateful that I got a higher education.
Please keep up the good work. You provide scale for measuring native intelligence. Without you, smarter people wouldn’t get to feel superior. You both provide a useful service in your shared deliria and many of us would like to thank you.
Between the Birchers and the Birthers, OC is a bastion for the less informed.
Barry, I was a high school senior when Kennedy was assasinated. I’ve had 45 years of conspiracy BS that has never proven a single point. not one. zero. nada. You come up with the 2nd smoking gun and you got me.
Tranceam: Galls the bejeezus out of you that a person of color is now your President, doesn’t it? Go iron your sheets for the next gathering.
Since when was junior college considered higher education?? In any event…you should direct your gratitude to the taxpayers that most likely paid for your so called higher education…I am sure you did not and could not pay for it on your own.
The hippie generation are the bigest sell outs ever…these are the guys that use to rail against capitalism and the government….then they turn around and give us MTV. Yeah…you guys sure are credible!!
You guys are such rebels!!
joecairo: They can’t help it. Here is a good article from Psychology Today that explains it:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolution-the-self/200907/gullibility-part-1-how-vulnerable-are-you-being-duped
LOL…there you go again….
And you hack on Orly for getting a degree online???
Let me guess your an armchair psychiatrist…cracker jacks says so huh?
If you ever have an original thought about this subject, please let us know.
Debating you alterego is akin to arguing with the mentaly impaired…but why not…
Fact - Obama has never shown a BC
Care to debate it?
anything NEW to add???
This coming from a guy whos posts are about as new and refreshing as a boston album??
Please…your emmbarasing yourself and insulting your party alterego..and that says a lot!!!
I think that conservatives can have anough genuine policy disagreements with Obama that those that make stuff up just make themselves look like loons, which is bad for anyone opposed to Obama “radically transforming” this country.
That is true Jamie and I would agree with you for the most part.
The problem is we do not know what is truth and what is fiction….If the BC thing is a non issue…then it should be released. There is no proof yet that comrade obama is the natural born citizen he claims ro be contrary to what liberals would like you to believe.
Independents and conservatives have held their tounges for to long in this country. We have been to worried about being called a rascist..a right winger..and to concerned about being politically correct with what is said. Our silence has served the liberal socialist agenda. They call you the very things you try to avoid…so why worry about being silent or be to concerned with how you are going to be perceived?
This truly is a fight for the very soul of this country. Liberals must be confronted at every end. They must be exposed by any means necessary…and the town criers should be loud with the message they deliver. The facts are AGAINST them. Engage them and you will always win…they simply can not argue any of their points effectively…they have no facts.
Obama proved his brith right to the government agencies that is required by law. Obama doesn’t have to prove it to a bunch of right wing nuts.
WOW..who do you claim has seen comrade obama’s long form BC??
It just goes to show you…..facts do not matter…all you have to do is tell a liberal what to say…they are absolutely incapable of finding anything out for themselves.
Show ANY evidence that this has ever happened. Nice imagination you have.
Looking at my “Certification of Vital Record” from Los Angeles County.
It is a copy of the “Certificate of Live Birth”
Does this mean I’m not an American citizen too? Wait! It states that I was born in Queen of Angels Hospital in Los Angeles.
So, if California was issuing “Certificate of Live Birth” when I was born, why couldn’t Hawaii been doing the same? BTW, I obtained a copy of my “Certificate of Live Birth” in 1990. Obama and I are about the same age.
Good point…
The only thing chairman obama’s colb proves is that there are records on file in Hawaii related to nobama’s birth status…the colb in no way verifys that nobama is a natrual born citizen and was actually born in a Hawaiian hospital…
The devil is in the details
LOL…. You people are nuts. I know a change is hard for most people but, you guys have deeper issues that you don’t want to admit.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Fact Check.org is a non partisan, non profit organization that only checks facts. If it were true, thaey’d post that also. But then, you don;’t care about facts.
THE FBI, CIA AND DEPT OF JUSTICE WAS REQUIRED BY LAW TO COMPLETE A THROUGH BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION PRIOR TO OBAMA LAUNCHING HIS BID TO RUN, OR RATHER BEFORE HE COULD RAISE A PENNY TO RUN.
Those ARE facts, but well, they could have screwed up, this was done when the dumbest clown in town was president, George Bush
Cookie: They do not want to read facts. Scroll up and follow the link I posted to Psychology Today and you’ll understand why extremists hold on to thier beliefs in spite of facts.
Alterego playing the fool again with his jail house type pschology advice….
Keep your day jod dude if you have one
Reds, I don’t have a day jod. I don’t know what a day jod is. The “d” key is nowhere near the “b” key, so it must not be be a “day job” you are writing about. If you’re interested, my day job isn’t really a day job, it is an anytime job. I’m a self-employed consultant, so I make my own hours. Just got back from Monterey. It was fun. Going to New Zealand at the end of January to visit my daughter who is doing an internship.
I have a dog. I take this dog to the Costa Mesa bark park a couple of times a week. Sometimes there is this little dog that keeps following him around sniffing his a$$, sniffing his a$$, sniffing his a$$. It is annoying to him, but he doesn’t want to go Kujo on this little dog, so he puts up with it. You remind me of this little dog. I’ll put up with you.
Alterego: I have no desire to hear about your sexual interests…I am sure you get very excited when you talk about tail pipes…that is pretty obvious..
Self employed huh…is that a nice way of saying you are unemployed? You must be cause I have a hard time believing anyone would pay for you to consult them on anything…does your daughter have to support you financially too? New Zealand is a nice place…your daughter might have some sense to her…I bet part of the reason she chose New Zealand was to get as far away from you as possible right?
I take it you are some sort of a canine consultant??
trying to bust me out on spelling…is that the best you got??? I mean your must be pretty sharp…do you also call the police when you see a driver run a stop sign? You are like a hall monitor from hell.
typical liberal that likes to bash people but can not take it when he gets bashed…I got your number.
Like I said before…you are embarrassing yourself and insulting your party.
How many times do you have to enlighten zombies to facts???
Fact check is NOT a govt. entity…their word counts for squat…
They are also nowhere near an independent organization…if you bothered to educate yourself you would know that they are apart of the Annenberg foundation….chairman obama was the first chairman of that board…but keep on swallowing the kool aid…are they not also being used to refute claims about obamacare as well??
Sounds pretty unbiased to me..
I would love to comapre comrade obama’s grades to Bush’s grades…it would be interesting indeed….just one problem with that…your transparent leader will not show you ANY of his grades…why do you think that is?
Maybe he was a secret agent and they can not show you for security reasons?
Maybe he got into an ivy league on less than stellar grades and he does not want you to know that?
Or maybe he was never born in this country in the first place?
I just find it interesting that none of his worshipers are curious as to what the case is…
Cookie, give us a link showing that these agencies did such an investigation. Also, explain what good it did to supposedly investigate Obama prior to the campaign when he did not release his alleged COLB until Hillary conceded the Democrat nomination.
stop picking on our president. he is a natural born citizen,and i am sure he will show all his credentials, because he is an honest. god fearing citizen of the greatest country in the world. he is not a muslim, because if he was, he would not be ashamed to admit he is one of them god bless america.
Did you know that being a natural born US citizen is not a requirement for the position Barack Obama holds, which is why these eligibility proceedings keep getting thrown out.
Taitz has no case anyway, for the above reason. This whole deal has been a smokescreen … not to cover Barack’s roots, but to cover the fact that the United States as we knew it, no longer exists.
Now we battle back and forth over Taitz, as we are programmed to do via media, while completely ignoring the fact we have no country left to argue over.
All this WHACKO BIRTHER BS amounts to is 20% of the GOP fracturing what’s left of any sanity their party might have had once upon a time and causing chaos within their own LUNATIC ranks.
These 20%ers will never win any election based on their sorry minority numbers, they are just making all Republicans look bad by their fanatic actions and the only party that they are helping is the Democratic party.
I say, keep on keeping on you Right WingNut Neo- Con-Artist Fools, your assuring Obama a second term every time you open your IGNORANT,BIGOTED, RACIST, HATE FILLED mouths.
We are maineman…it started last week with the BEAT DOWN your party got in the elections….keep on telling yourself it is the Republican party with the greater problems…you freaks can not get anything passed when your party controls all 3 branches of Government!!! Keep on putting the blame on Bush…it is totaly helping your cause…I am sure you will keep blaming the same people when comrade obama does not get a second term right?
Kool aid 101 with you bro
Two governor’s seats against weak encumbants who don’t make federal law. One Representative seat, that makes federal law, in a district that has been Republican since the Civil War. I’d call it for the Dems.
I find your math hilarious..lol…
A 30 point swing in Va and almost the same in one of the bluest states there is…and you want to call it a victory??? De nile aint just a river in Egypt…
by the way…that NY seat you are reffering to…you kow that a republican was not even running right?? You also know that they are still counting absentee ballots and the democrat is going to end up winning by maybe 3000votes right???
Gee I guess I would trump that as a victory too…your leader showed up in NJ how many times on the eve of the election and how many points was the democrat able to close the margin? Answer = ZERO
Your spin on events is uncanny!!!!
You took the words right out of pelosi’s mouth with that Civil War Ref….like I keep saying…you have yet to say something factual and the least bit intelligent…all you have shown me is that you can steal your party leader’s lines and repeat them as your own…
you are so original
That is what I thought alterego….the more acurate response would have just been to say I do not know…or I do not care…or I am to much of a blind follower to address any issues that go against my idol’s cause.
Any of those probably would have been a more appropriate answer.
Why you is the question?
I enlightened you to this as well…but I would be happy to provide you an answer again…I have seen you bash many people on this site just for having a different oppinion than yours. It is offensive and arrogant and whats more…uncalled for.
I would much rather stick to a debate on the issues. If you can do the same then so can I
Maineman: 20% is probably way over estimate. More like 10-12% to me. It is just those 10-12% have big mouths. The rest of the Conservative movement will suffer the consequences of not smacking them down.
I am gonna guess the 58 in your screename refers to your age?
by your statements above…I would have to advise you take some geritol…your grip on reality faded years ago….
I really was not looking for your life story ar trying to give you a platform to convince the world you really are not insecure…
Ever notice that about a person? The ones that seem to have to try to convince you how smart, rich, insightful and so on…tend to be the ones that are extremely insecure in those same areas??
alterego is a perfect example of that….you are probably only a legend in your own mind….
you know dogs tend to take on the personality and trates of their owner…yours must be a pu__y…
Did you get your lunch money get taken a lot in high school?
Reds, I’ll answer any question you ask. And I’ll take you on any day any time as I previously stated. You still keep sniffin at my butt, don’t you? Sniff, sniff. Quit now before I $hit in your face.
alterego - You just can not take it when you get bashed. I have watched you bash people many times on this site for no reason other than you disagree with them. You really are not as smart as you think..nor very witty or funny and based on your posts…I am sure you tend to exagerate your sucess in life. I am sure many readers had a good laugh with my goofs on you.
In any event…your interpretation of the recent elections (laughable…really) and your lack of facts in any of your other arguments….destroys all your credability.
You sir are a fool’s fool….dont you worry…I will be here to bash you some more and provide a thorough beat down any time you need one
Keep chasing me around and keep sniffing. It is quite entertaining. Since you refused to ask me a question, I’ll ask you one. Why are you so obsessed with me?
You really are a imbecile ….why dont you answer my analysis of the election jack - a$$….I asked you several questions in several posts…it seems once I refute your hot air…you quickly change your tone….
Keep crying baby it really suits you
Reds, do you mean questions such as:
Ever notice that about a person?
and you want to call it a victory???
your leader showed up in NJ how many times on the eve of the election and how many points was the democrat able to close the margin?
You also know that they are still counting absentee ballots and the democrat is going to end up winning by maybe 3000votes right???
your transparent leader will not show you ANY of his grades…why do you think that is?
Maybe he was a secret agent and they can not show you for security reasons?
Maybe he got into an ivy league on less than stellar grades and he does not want you to know that?
Or maybe he was never born in this country in the first place?
Not worth the two calories it would take to type an answer. So, why are you so obsessed with me small dog?
I love all the nervous Nellie OC people all fretting that their fragile world is imploding, and fearful they are not going to be able to force their twisted, dated, sick Victorian values on people - instead people are embracing freedom of choice.
These simpletons are offended because our President is African American and they will do ANYTHING to discredit him because of that alone. Kooks!
Oh yes jchandjd…that is exactly it….it has nothing to do with the guy’s policy or his lack of experience and questionable character….you sure figured that one out quick….
Yes, kooks. The leaders are kooks and the followers are kooks.
Reds sez:
But the fact remains that BEFORE RWers forced the regular Repug out of the race, the DEM was a sure loser by 6,000 or more. The race turned out to be a head-to-head contest against the the lunatic teabaggers and normal thinkers, and the normals won.
The Dem candidate ran as a quasi-teabagger and the party base decided he wasn’t worth coming out for. He opposed HCR and ran away from the national party and the President–and he didn’t get the RW voters who preferred (understandably) a real RWer.
And that proves what? Diddley squat–except that the incumbent was hugely unpopular in his own right. Exit poll show that a majority of voters had a positive view of Obama and the DEM agenda.
You cry about wanting to debate and immediately vector off into rants that are ipso facto undebatable. You appear to only want to smear with ad hominems.
Hmmmm…does that make you a felcher joeymac if they are teabaggers???
Uh, no. I’m more of “facesitter” as you found out.
Where to begin…
Joeywhac says:
And that proves what? Diddley squat–except that the incumbent was hugely unpopular in his own right. Exit poll show that a majority of voters had a positive view of Obama and the DEM agenda.
Obviously it meant a lot to your party and to your leader if he felt that he should campaign to the extent he did in NJ…are you disagreeing with your God????
Joeymac says:
The Dem candidate ran as a quasi-teabagger and the party base decided he wasn’t worth coming out for. He opposed HCR and ran away from the national party and the President–and he didn’t get the RW voters who preferred (understandably) a real RWer.
Sure he did Joeywak…that is why he ran on the same platform as your favorite comrade…smells like a liberal…talks like a liberal…acts like a liberal…and guess what? No matter how you want to spin it…He IS a liberal…and he is now unemployed…I love to watch liberals bash their own when they loose…thats the reason he lost..he was not a TRUE liberal…I guess when you guys lose the game your answer is to go back and try to change the rules…you are not fooling anyone except yourself.
Joeywuss says:
But the fact remains that BEFORE RWers forced the regular Repug out of the race, the DEM was a sure loser by 6,000 or more. The race turned out to be a head-to-head contest against the the lunatic teabaggers and normal thinkers, and the normals won.
More spin eh…the truth is the #2 democrat in that race dropped out because she knew she had no chance of winning because almost NO Republicans would support her outside her state…her leaving the race actually tightened it jack a$$. I will laugh my a$$ off if the demo ends up loosing after they count all the absentee ballots…the race was a lot closer than you try to portray…like I said…denial is a major problem for your party.
Nice try…but you lose to..try again
the truth is the #2 democrat in that race dropped out because she knew she had no chance of winning because almost NO Republicans would support her outside her state…
Hmm…most sentient folks would conclude that support WITHIN one’s state is a necessary prerequsite for electoral sucess. But, you teabaggers live in a bizarro world.
her leaving the race actually tightened it jack a$$.
Again, a bizarro world. With the teabagger out, the orthodox Republican was a sure winner. With the teabagger in, she was the likely winner.
I will laugh my a$$ off if the demo ends up loosing after they count all the absentee ballots…
Dream on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WQ4hrJd-w
…the race was a lot closer than you try to portray…
With approx 6,000 absentee ballots to count and Scozzafave sure to take 2-3000, it doesn’t leave much to hang your hat on…doesn’t it. Talk about denial!
Obviously it meant a lot to your party and to your leader if he felt that he should campaign to the extent he did in NJ…are you disagreeing with your God????
A non-sequiter. It meant diddley squat on the political landscape outside of NJ. And speaking of deities, how did you goddess-head fare in NY-23?
Sure he did Joeywak…that is why he ran on the same platform as your favorite comrade
A straight out lie. He opposed HCR and Cap and Trade. And, he disdained the support of traditional Democrats. Tell the truth for once (admittedly, a lot to ask a RWerJ).
I love to watch liberals bash their own when they loose…thats the reason he lost..he was not a TRUE liberal…I guess when you guys lose the game your answer is to go back and try to change the rules…you are not fooling anyone except yourself.
More projection and denial. Sarah Palin has a 30% approval rating, so all candidate should emulate her. You screw the pooch by turning a sure Repug seat Democratic, and it’s a victory because you avoided seating a “RINO.” I don’t believe that you are really fooling yourselves.
I am making a herculean effort to respond to personal invective in kind. I am not always successful.
TB 253,
The fact the statement raises in you such sarcastic ire only confirms its truth.