Despite last minute pleas from Sheriff Sandra Hutchens that proposed budget cuts could cripple the quality of law enforcement, county supervisors reaffirmed their decision to shrink her department’s budget by $28 million today.
Up to 50 sheriff’s department employees will be laid off from across the department because of the cuts, Hutchens said. At least one floor of the Women’s Central Jail will be shuttered, response times will increase and investigations will move along at a slower clip, Hutchens said.
“I can not absorb $30 million in cuts without the public feeling this,” she said.
Supervisors heard from the sheriff one final time before adopting the final budget for next year — a spending plan that’s $1.2 billion smaller than this year as a staggering economy continues to slam tax revenues. The county’s general fund budget now hovers at $700 million, after supervisors shaved some $55 million from services — the majority coming from public safety.
Hutchens asked supervisors today for about $7 million to keep her department afloat for six months while she negotiates a deal with Immigration and Customs Enforcement to house federal detainees, which she believes could bring in up to $18 million a year. And she was hoping to avoid layoffs and deeper program cuts until that money starts flowing in.
Supervisors acknowledged the sheriff presented a “compelling argument,” they weren’t willing to gamble that the ICE deal would come to fruition.
“When you have something firm, come back,” Supervisor Bill Campbell told the sheriff.
Check back with ocregister.com for a full budget story.
Why should the Sheriff’s department receive any special treatment. Welcome to reality! Although cutbacks here might affect local donut shops.
“Why should the Sheriff’s department receive any special treatment. Welcome to reality! Although cutbacks here might affect local donut shops.”
Oh my goodness … a cop / donut reference. How funny!! One hardly hears such unique and cutting edge humor anymore. Please keep them coming. Perhaps a witty observation about the intellectual capacity of blonds or an anecdote about a priest and a rabbi entering a drinking establishment. I am sure any you tell would be just as original as the cop in the donut shop remark.
Yup…the old O.C. Sheriff ’scare the public’ game. I remember it well during my time in O.C. General Services Administration back before the bankruptcy. Whenever the county. wanted more money, or wanted some ‘temporary’ tax to remain in force, they trotted out the Sheriff to put the fear of God into the public. I remember the trick being used at the time of the pending termination of the 1% sales tax levied in the state to repair the San Francisco quake in the late 80’s. Out came the Sheriff right on queue telling the public the jails would be thrown open. It worked. The tax remained, most of the county agencies ( which had nothing to do with law enforcement) got a windfall, and the Sheriff got a budget increase that was not even needed.
Bark Bark! Woo Woo WOOH!
I think if you cut the sheriff dept by half most of us wouldn’t know the difference. Well……I take that back; most donut shops will go out of business.
Oh my goodness … a cop / donut reference. How funny!! One hardly hears such unique and cutting edge humor anymore. Please keep them coming. Perhaps a witty observation about the intellectual capacity of blonds or an anecdote about a priest and a rabbi entering a drinking establishment. I am sure any you tell would be just as original as the cop in the donut shop remark.
By all means.. as you have proven us all that using this same reference your no better than Al Gregory. And using such intellectual verbal comments makes you better than anyone in here. the year is 2009 Timmy classic referrences of a cop and a donut shop will never get old. Plus i bet your a fan of the classic chocolate bar aren’t you?
“I can not absorb $30 million in cuts without the public feeling this,” she said.
She meant The Sheriff’s Department can’t absorb it without the public feeling it. I doubt there will be even a noticiable difference.
I heard the OC Sheriff Department was holding 600 federal detainees, and that ICE may pay $18 million annually to the OC Sheriff for the service of holding them in jail. That’s $30,000 per detainee. Why don’t they just deport the federal detainees and be done with it.
Tim, that was a dumb comment…and so old!
I bet Sheriff Corona would come back and work for cheap!
If all of the sheriff”s would take a pay cut they could still work. but they don’t want to .all they are is money huger people just like the government and all of the CEO of the big businesses . they want to make the lower class pepole pay for the thinks .like hight gas prices tax . if they loss there jobs like a lot of people did they mite be thankfull for have takeing a pay cut to save there jobs but they don’t care at all they want all the french Benefits so let them be with out a job and see how hard it is to make endmeat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO GET REAL PEOPLE HELP US HELP YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow you are educated. Please do not comment anymore. It is not the Sheriff’s fault you were laid off at Burger King.
This is why there are lay off
California declaring backruptcy? How can it be? (from the L. A. Times)
Just One State
Rumor has it that California may soon declare bankruptcy.?? Hmmmmmmmm?? Wonder why !
Just One State
This is only one State……………If this doesn’t open your eyes nothing will ! ?
From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
6.. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County )
(All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.
We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue
HOW CAN YOU HELP ?
Send copies of this letter to at least two other people? 100 would be even better.
This is only one State……………
And you wonder why Nancy Pelosi wants them to become voters!
hmm… you might want to take an English class and then re-post your comment. Just be prepared for when one of you has to call 911 and there might be one less dispatcher hired to fill an open position. Or one less deputy to cover someone out sick. Or one less investigator to find out who assaulted your kid, burglarized your house, etc. And then if they did find him/her, they were let out due to lack of space in the jail. She’s not asking for an increase, she’s asking to keep the level the same. A better solution would be taking away publically paid vehicles for the BOS and lieutenants and above. Also, some of those high ranking people have secretaries who drive a county car as well. Those vehicles also use county paid for gas.
French benefits!?!?! Cool! Where can I get some of those?!?!?! LOL I’ve always wanted a job with “French Benefits”!!!
Time to start give back the CCWs eh? We don’t need the cops anyway. Good riddance!
You sound like a criminal to me.
Really…donut shops, you people are idiots. Is this all you have to poke at, get a life. I agree for the most part its sheriff’s dept.’s turn to trim some money. the sheriff’s dept. like most agencies is running short manned as it is. losing fifty people most likely will not affect public safety, you can pull those deputies from those still on probation (1st year employees). cutting them by half will never happen. the public is already seeing the shortage. when cities such as aliso viejo, lafe forest, san clemente, dana point and san juan run with 3-4 deputies on a midnight shift patrolling the entire city, that is a problem. and its happening now. people need to understand that law enforcement is a crucial neccessity and cutting funds will eventually affect the public safety.
Hmm….I live in Aliso Viejo, there are more cops that civilians here.
baby67: cops like everyone else are paying just as high taxes, gas and whatever else you pay. so why should they take a pay cut. and french benefits…really, i’ve never heard of french benefits.
So much for “job security”…
“I can not absorb $30 million in cuts without the public feeling this,” she said. Finally a public official that speaks plainly and does not have a problem identifying that public safety has a cost and that reductions in staff will have consequences. Compare this with the Orange County Fire District Chief’s comments that the decision to keep the roughly 70 vacant fire-fighter positions (of something like 840) would not be filled, but the public would not see a decrease in service. Then why were they ever filled? None of this is intended to defend the very high cost of retirement for either group. It appears we can do little about this.
Reducing overtime is what public safety needs to do. No cop or firefighter should make $125K per year unless they are an executive administrator…period! Ovetime for public safety employees should be the focus of the cuts. Administrators should be able to manage that OT MUCH better.
The highest paid employee in the OCSD last year was a detective whose overtime earnings were greater than his salary! He ended up making more than the real Sheriff!
My bad… it was 2007 and there were FOUR employees who made more than the Sheriff.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/deputy-sheriff-pay-2044448-salary-overtime?appSession=362177074840565
I know doctors whose annual income is less than $200K. Overtime is OCSD heroin and they need to get into a methadone detox program stat!
The reason the work so much over time is that they are short handed. get you facks straight
$28,000,000 divide by 50 employees is, um, uh $560,000 each.
they are way over paid! my question is how does 30 MILLION only affect 50 employees? that averages out to $600,000.00 per employee
Yeah, OverTime is what’s bad. OT hurts corporations too. Time & Labor Mgt is where it’s at.
Rich, law enforcement is NOT a crucial necessity. Freedom to defend one’s self without harassment from lazy cops is a crucial necessity. The cops are only there to collect money for the government and clean up the mess AFTER a criminal takes you out. Most are government thugs with guns and badges. I think we would be better off without them. Give me my CCW and let me be free.
You are an idot. Without police it would be anarchy. I am sure you have some grudge as they must have harrassed you for some reason which you were not at fault for. You are a low life I am sure
There are civilized villages and communities all over the world that live peacefully without anything even remotely resembling police. Police do not prevent anarchy. In some cases police actually diminish liberty instead of promoting it (e.g. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Pol Pot, etc.).
I think Rich’s point is that if we had more law-abiding citizens armed with their own protection we’d need fewer police. Police are a necessity when The People can’t defend their own property and community.
If we had more law-abiding citizens, why would we need to be armed at all?
OC Gal: If everyone honored the laws of the community then we wouldn’t need to be armed. The theory goes that if there is a high probability that the person you’re about to steal from or attack is armed you’ll be more likely not to commit the crime. Not everyone has learned to respect and honor other people. Those folks need additional coaxing to behave appropriately. I do not armed law-abiding citizens. I do however fear armed criminals, especially if I am not armed myself.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
2nd Amendment
You can’t contribute anything meaningful so obviously that makes me an “idiot” and a “low life”. Nice, thanks. Way to have an intelligent conversation.
The Sheriff’s Department’s budget is being reduced by approximately 5%. Almost every private business and CERTAINLY every public agency has at least 5% of elasticity, waste or fraud. A 5% cut is not going to crumble the public safety infrastructure. Using the “the public wil suffer” card is sophomoric. A few less employees and not as much money for the latest crime fighting gadgets. Big deal! We can wait a little longer to get a report taken for a non-violent crime and there’ll be a few less “feel good” activities like police outreach to schools and community fairs. So what?!
The Sheriff is only showing us that money is like crack, addictive. I’d love to see an operations research study done of every position in the entire OC Sheriff’s department to measure their efficiency. The truth would be a breath of fresh air and a basis for future funding decisions.
Go back to your home country if you don’t like it.
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I am home.
Then get an english name. This ain’t France, or the vatican.
Rumor has that notices should be out later this week….
It would seem like a department head, like the county sheriff, would be concerned about the overall financial health of the county and not just put together a ’sales presentation’ before the board like she did today. She told the board additional $3 million dollar funding for the women’s jail was “critical”, yet we later learned that OCSD can simply consolidate space and house the inmate females elsewhere in the system. So it obviously was not “critical”, was it? I’m glad the board saw through it. There is absolutely no reason why the OCSD should not feel some of the pain of the economic crisis like everyone one else. Part of that pain is job cutbacks. They’ve been pampered enough already. And she tried to sell us a pig in a poke by getting an additional $7 million by claiming future expected revenue from the fed for housing illegal foreigners in OC jails. There is absolutely no guarantee of that. It was just a way to get more money when all other department budgets are being cut. Glad the board saw through that one too. When are we going to get an honest sheriff at OCSD? Is that too much to ask for?
oc you are a dullnormal bore amigo—-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hi josh, welcome aboard. I see you’re a hometeamer too, eh? You’d probably do better at skipping over my posts. I promote the truth. So what I have to say will probably ruin your day. Just some friendly advice. I’m lookin’ out for ya. ha!
No he is right we are sick of your ranting and raving, always saying the same basic thing.
OCCOPSERVER, shut up or make a new comment for once!
there is no way they will shut down that many medical beds. no way.
talk about liability and with summer booking volume ahead…..
the other area housing is not equipped for it.
this is all for show and I think the BOS is in on it.
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THAT IS JUST A LOAD OF HORSE!!!!!!!!!!
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I think that it’s a Liberal Plot and Obama is to blame! Those d–m Democrats! How dare they interfere with the “OC”
Under Prop 13, O.C. raises my property taxes 2% annually whether the increase is justified or not. They always get their share.
Share the pain, Sheriff.
Let’s remember– it was the repub lincoln club oc right wing whack attack that propelled skipy into office— that’s a fact— now these same posters love to come out here and bash the dept….what a bore—–the cuts are unfortunate but the public won’t notice much– trimming is good from time to time… It is a good dept.
I find it hard to believe that most of these cuts will be positions, not
actual a person employed.
We know the traffic court cases and traffic offenses have gone done considerably given less people are diriving so why hasn’t the amount of employees reflected this situation happened.
Every time I go to the court house there like four or five sheriiff personnell there at each doorway.
Listen cut two of these positions, add one of those TSR screeners, for half the costs. Transfer the two sheriffs to the jail to end the OT offered there…Geez if this could not be any simplier.
Also, with the money that the board supes is wasting on suing the sheriifs union we could have concievably avoided this shortfalls. Ends this nonsense!
Cut Mauk and send him into retirement. He just a blowhole who talks tough about pension giveways but is the biggest OC porky in terms of pension payouts.
most of you are idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What all of you are failing to see is that this is just going to mean more overtime pay for the existing Sheriff’s personnel, and you’d better believe it. There are going to be some very happy, rich (albeit exhausted) deputies out there.
The budget could be cut at least 30 million by cutting back on the free medical care and medicine which is spent on the inmates housed in the jails. Give them the most basic healthcare avalible. They money spent on pills and medicine for inmates is rediculous. Most inmates don’t use the meds while they are not locked up, and when they get to jail they claim all these medical needs…… I know if I am a victim of a crime, which alot of you posters will be (regaurdless of where you live), I do not want a slower response time for deputies to arrive.
Let’s see. $28 million, 50 jobs. That is equivalent to $500K+ per job. What is wrong with this picture? Does it really cost us $500K per sheriff’s department employee? If so, fire them all and lets start over.
Your all a bunch of ignorant, selfish, people those 50 county employees that will lose their jobs will have to worry if they can pay for their house, car, and most importantly feed there families are any of you goining to offer them your salaries, didn’t think so. For those of you who think the cops just sleep and eat donuts go visit the jail in santa ana or orange it’s filled murder’s and child molesters, who prob. turned them selves in on their own. glad it wasn’t my family who got killed or my kids that got raped. Republidemotaria A few less “feel good” activities like police outreach to schools and community fairs. So what?! You are just retarded.
Why should your ilk be immune from a recession? You think you’re special or better than the ordinary citizen? 50 should only be the start. You’d have to lose 250+ to have the same layoff rate as the private sector. About time you took a hit. Deal with it.
JJ: We pay taxes for essential police services, not for programs invented to extend employment to more deputies that do not enhance public safety in a meaningful way. If you are claiming that there every existing position and program is essential and that there is no waste, fraud or abuse that can be eliminated then I suggest you read about what happened at the department under the previous Sheriff’s watch.
You have to resort to name calling because you can’t reinforce your argument with facts…just demogoguery.
There is so much fluff in the department that can be cut like the entire Press Information Office….Jim “Elmer Fudd” Armanino hopefully will be the first to go. We pay for at three civilian employees for the press…..all worthless. Be berrry, berrrry, quiet…..were wooking for a bad guy….what a joke!!!
It’s very hard for me to feel sorry about the Sherrif’s Dept having to lay off. Firstly, there has & will be so much “payout” money paid to private AND past Sheriff’s Dept. personnel. Jaramillo? Carona? , and others. Many other’s. And, if one REALLY wants to see incompitance at it’s best, goto the Sherrif’s “booth” in the County Administration Building. First floor. I have personally waited for over 15 minutes to get attention all the while two Deputy’s were playing computer games, downloading games & checking their e-mail. Try it. They should place a camera directly above them. Not feeling bad here.
on one page, the Sheriff department got cut and facing lay off. On the other page, congress wants to propose and pass the “Dream Act” … got to LMAO
I’m glad I don’t live in an OCSD patrolled area. I enjoy knowing that if I call 911 I will get an officer to respond. To all you liberals complaining about how much deputies make, I have an idea! Instead of giving criminals top of the line medical, housing, clothing and nutrition….. Let’s round up all the convicts like animals and ship them to the desert. That should save a few million. (but in your words, that would not be “humane”)
BTW: Over-time is high because OCSD is already short staffed as it is. These guys that “make more than the sheriff” because they work 12 hours a day / seven days a week. They earned every penny!
54% of overtime is due to vacation, sick leave and not filling open positions. The Sheriff tried to justify this saying they did a study that showed overtime is more cost-effective than filling the vacancies. When asked to produce the study guess what? They never actually did one. They were just protecting their swollen incomes and sticking it to the taxpayer.
I’m sure that most deputies work hard most of the day but to pretend that they don’t waste time or conduct personal business while they’re on duty is naive or even ignorant.
ME THINKS OCOBSERVER AND JOHNNY VEGAS GET MUGGED AS A RESULT OF SLOW POLICE RESPONSE. LOL.
Republidemotaria said: “I’d love to see an operations research study done of every position in the entire OC Sheriff’s department to measure their efficiency. The truth would be a breath of fresh air and a basis for future funding decisions.”
Well they did. It was called the Crout & Sida Report. In fact, the audit showed that the Sheriff’s Department is short several hundred positions. OCSD jail has one of the safest records of any jail system it’s size. That is a testament of the professionalism of it’s personnel.
The Crout & Sida report was not a true operations research study. It did not assess the amount of time every OCSD employee actually spends each day on all activities. It did not look at positions outside the jail system. I realize that being a deputy in the jails is not a plum job but lets be real…everyone working for the OCSD is working in the jails. My point is that deputies spend time each day on inefficient and even non-work related activity. How much time is wasted? How can we squeeze that waste out of the system? If you stand and say “We’re great. We’re understaffed. Nothing can be cut. There is not waste anywhere in the agency.” you better be able to prove it with evidence and real data across the board. If you can’t then you’re being dishonest.
O.C. do you understand that if you layoff 250+ , orange county will quickly turn into to a dump and will not be this beautiful county we all love. I feel the sheriff’s department should charge you when you get arrested or when you call 911 because the neighbors dog is to loud. O.C. you said you bring truth how bout reality.
BS. I called the cops once because a woman out on the street was getting beaten up by some thug at night. I had to call back 3 times to get a car out here. Took them close to 15 minutes to show up. How could it get any worse than that? I’d rather disband the police department and return to the wild west. When faced with such a situation the neighbors could walk out with baseball bats and take care of business. Decent people can’t do that now. They’d get sued by the crook. And the cops would probably arrest the citizens for assault w/ a deadly weapon!
You wimp you did not help that lady out.
And then you turn around and say you can take care of business with a baseball bat.
Contrary information OCOPSERVER!
I think both were illegals For that reason I wasn’t so concerned. But they were disturbing my sleep. For that reason I called the cops. But just the fact that it took them 15 minutes to get here….ha. How could a response time get much worse than that? Those are our tax dollars at work? Yellow cabs don’t take that long. I would never depend upon LE to help me out in a jam. That’s why I have learned to protect myself.
Your are a real humanatarian, congratulations on your assumptions, you just showed everyone what a piece of work you are!!
I think you spend too much time on this site.
Do some community service and volunteer somewhere. It is amazing how good it feels knowing that you have helped others. Really!
your obsessed
Do some community service and volunteer somewhere. It is amazing how good it feels knowing that you have helped others. Really!
Easy fix:
No more responses to things like lost cell phones, non-injury traffic collisions, “neighbors spinklers keep hitting my car,” etc………I could go on and on.
And to piggy-back on what was brought up earlier, cut inmate housing costs and inmate programs. Double the price of inmate commissary (snacks like candy, popcorn, noodles), cut Friday’s off as a visiting day, start charging inmates for medication.
But by god, don’t go after the deputies who are patrolling the streets. Sure there are good ones and bad ones. Look around at your workplace, there are not-so-great employees in every profession. And on that note, if your boss said, “Hey, you want to work Saturday and make “time-and-a-half, ” you would do it too. Would that be your fault?
Deputies go out everyday and put their lives on the line to keep peace on the streets. Let’s face it, if you awoke tommorrow morning to find out that all cops had the day off, wouldn’t you just hide, or would you have to leave because your house is already on fire. I know, you’ll come up with some wise-crack about “wouldn’t it be nice,” but when you go to bed at night, you do so knowing that the fear of being arrested by cops is what keeps people from breaking in and taking everything you own or your life.
And good lord, come up with something other that donut cracks (Which actually stems from years ago, donut shops was the only eatery open in the middle of the night or early in the morning, so cops would be seen there getting a bite to eat and a cup of coffee).
The fear of being arrested by cops is not “what keeps people from breaking in and taking everything you own or your life”. If that were true then people wouldn’t be robbing or killing today because there are a myriad of police on the street.
I am comfortable accepting the responsibility for protecting my own life and property.
The real issue here is that the OCSD is being asked to take a 5% budget cut and some people are saying that is too devastating for the OCSD to absorb. Rational people (which obviously does not include everyone commenting on this blog) realize that the majority of people serving in law enforcement do an adequate job and we’re glad to benefit from their service. We simply can’t afford to have as many of them and their support staff right now as we currently have. It’s not personal but some people sure try to make it seem like it is.
Keep the street cops and let them do there job. But the jails need a staff overhaul. I have unfortunately been on both sides of the OCSD. The jail cops are worthless. Not giving toilet paper to inmates for over a 24 hour period, forcefully beating inmates under investigators orders to try to obtain a “confession”, not letting inmates take showers for 5 days. Providing no clean clothes. Making inmates walk around naked so they can fulfill the homoerotic needs. Turning the lights on full blast and TV’s on during “lights out” to cause sleep depravation. Lack of medical treatment to inmates, medical staff giving wrong medications to inmates. Investigators purposely making false charges to see if they “stick”. Lying to get search warrants, Harassing even after inmate’s charges were dropped and making threats to those people. Illegal search and seizures. Cops being arrested for domestic violence and being released in hours with no charges so they can keep there jobs and kept hush hush and asked not forced to take anger management classes.
Some people like to believe that they police are perfect and have there best interest in hand but face facts. OCSD is one of the most corrupt police forces in the county they make LAPD Rampart look like angels.
Here’s one for ya….”the lousy cop”
Well Mr Citizen, i guess you’ve got me figured out. I seem to fit neatly into the category you placed me in. I’m stereotyped, characterized, standarized, classified, grouped and always typical. I’m the “Lousy Cop”
“Unfortunately, the reverse isn’t true. i can never figure you out.”
from birth you teach your children that i’m the boogeyman and then are shocked when they learn and identify me with my traditional enemy, the criminal. “you raise cain about the guy who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and it’s picking on you. You know all the traffic laws, but you never got one single ticket you deserved.”
“You accuse me of coddling juveniles, until i catch your kid doing something. then it’s badge happy. “you take an hour for lunch and several coffee brakes each day but point me out as a loafer if you see me having just one cup.”
“You pride yourself on your poliched manners but think nothing of interrupting my meal at noon with your troubles. You shout “foul” if you observe me driving fast en route to an emergency call, but literally raise hell if i take more than 10 seconds responding to your call.”
“You’re a witty conversationalist , but you bore me stiff at social gatherings with your vast knowledge of law enforcement.”
“you call it part of my job if someone strikes me, but it’s police brutality if i strike back, you would’nt think of telling your dentist how to pull a badly decayed tooth, or your doctor how to take out your appendix, but you are always willing to give me a few pointers in law enforcement.”
“You talk to me in a manner, and use language that would assure a bloody nose from anybody else, but you expect me to stand and take it without batting an eye, you cry something has to be done about all this crime, but of course , you can’t be bothered with getting involved.”
and waht about the guy that works all night making sure you didnt forget to lock up your business or home when you go on vacation? you’ve got no use for me at all, but of course its o if i change a tire for your wife or deliver your child in the backseat of my patrol car on the way to the hospital, save your sons life with mouth to mouth resuscitation or maybe work many hours overtime to find your lost daughter
so, mr citizen, you stand there on your soap box and rant and rave about the way i do my job, calling me every name in the book, but never stop to think that your property, your family or maybe your life might depend on one thing, me or one of my buddies!
The current California State Budget deficit needs to be resolved by cutting costs!!!
If that means reducing staff at ALL State Agencies and Departments, then do it.
It’s SIMPLE accounting! California has a certain amount of money in its Budget, and we need to operate within that budget.
Once we ALL accept this fact, the faster it will be for the State to resolve the budget situation.
I have never seen so many ignorant and juvenile responses to a serious issue. First of all, it’s bagel shops now as donuts are a thing of the past. Then, the next time you are assaulted, robbed or burglarized, call Al Gregory (no doubt an ex-con) or each other to assist you and see how far your case goes. When you become a victim, I’m anxious to hear the donut jokes rolling in!!
WOW! News flash OCSD is a state agency. Bunch of criminals venting on the cops here.
dude check your facks OCSD (Orange County) not (Orange State)
We dislike the way the current crop of law enforcement is and that somehow makes us criminals? Yeah…… Not really a big thinker there are ya Mike?
Save your breath for tatoo laser removal, I can tell you are a thug, Smhell!
Glad you liked dragnet
It’s not like the lay-offs will be any of the over paid deputies. It will be all the administrators who are the backbone of the department. Real shame indeed.
More like a bunch of tax paying citizens who are tired of all these State, County, and City employees whe are complaining that they may lose their job due to budget cuts. We dont want to hear it anymore!!!
Everyone needs to focus on the real issue, THE BUDGET DEFICIT, and do somehting constuctive or positive to find a solution to the situation.
Sheriff Hutchens is being realistic and giving everyone the facts that staff reduction may be required.
That’s funny, all this time I thought OSCD was a County Agency. MY GOSH! That’s who I receive my FANTASTIC pension that moorlach can’t do squat about, from. YAHOO! Seniority is a grand thing.
To OCJ 905 (nice handle), you forgot the “X”:
Ya, you must not be on here that much, these idiots are on here all the time. See you at intake.
Ok, to all of you ragging on the Sheriff’s Department; there are real people working for the Sheriff’s Department that work hard and would truely struggle if they got let go or fired. There are people that are working in offices doing office work, there are people there to fingerprint you when you want to work at your childs’ school, there are people there trying to do anything it takes to solve case after case to ensure their city is safe. Keep in mind that there are “bad seeds” in all work places and there are also “people that can get away with it all” in all work places. The people in the Sheriff’s Department are there to help you, and they do just that. Not all deputies are “out to get you”, if you think they are then you just did something wrong. Thank you to everyone who supports the Sheriff’s Department:)
And to all you funny donut shop guys, bagels are the new thing!! GET A LIFE!!
There are COUNTLESS counties throughout this country that run successful shall-issue CCW programs, with crime rates at or below most of Orange County.
Both sides need to stop bickering w/ emotions and get to the facts - with proper training and background checks, CCW-carrying citizens help prevent & combat crime, it’s a fact, end of story.
HALF OF ME WROTE,
“the roughly 70 vacant fire-fighter positions (of something like 840) would not be filled, but the public would not see a decrease in service. Then why were they ever filled?” uhhhh, they are filled! they are filled with off duty available ff’s or ff’s that are forced to work those open slots,so thats why you will not see a decrease in service. do you think fire depts just down engines when a vacancy occurs. it does not work that way and we would never put the public in that kind of danger. use the other half of your brain once in a while!!!!!!!!
The Grand Jury found that the deputies employed prisoners to keep other prisoners in line. Think of the cost savings there! Save money AND abuse people at the same time.
Thanks Jan 04. Only on sometimes, but you won’t see me in intake. Retired over 4 years now and loving it. Still in the OC, so I care about what happens. When back in Hawaii (I go back and forth), I’ll be less concerned. haha
So the BoS dislike the Sheriff Dept. so much they are willing to cut services?
:), gotta love friends.
baby67, there is only 1 Sheriff in each dept, yep only one & her name is Sandra Hutchins.
Why doesnt the Sheriff and her overpaid staff take a pay cut. They all get over 150,000 a years with take home cars and free gas. Most of them live out of county so that means free fastrack!! This is just crazy!!
ABOUT TIME!
Now, let’s do some more cutting as there is WAYYYY too much waste going on, and in these times, we need to much more responsible with our pennies……
“The sky is falling, the sky is falling!”
Sheriff Sandra Hutchens
After the cuts take affect, I’d like to revisit this column forum and just see what has occurred and which of you have had some ramification from the cuts. Then see what the attitude is towards law enforcement. From the negativity that I see here, it’s not only for the OCSD but all of law enforcement. Usually someone that has experienced the “law” and spent some time in custody. No amount of argument will ever change their minds. And as the saying goes, “Only the dumb ones get caught”!
Sounds like all of you anti Sheriff’s Dept people have it all figured out. It’s a wonder you haven’t ran for office so you can use your expertise to fix the mess we’re in.
A lot of you have questions, but you refuse to look up the answers. So let me serve them up on a platter. Read em if you want or continue to choose to be ignorance:
cut and paste this link:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/million-nonsworn-county-2469477-year-board
In L.A our guys work a three day week with four days off.When you call for assistence they arrive 2 hours later with a real nasty attitude and before asking whats wrong, they demand I.D. and run you for warrents even when your an Honorbly Retired Police Officer.Then they tell you it’s all a civil matter or your insurence will cover it and they can’t use your video of the crime because they can’t use it because it’s a violation of the criminals privacy,If you say they owe you a duty they quote the 1981 District of Columbia Decision, confirmed by the Court of Appeals and sanctioned by the Supreme Court that sez “Law Enforcement Officers do not owe the individual citizen any duty at all”. If you complain you have to worry about their Police Officers Association suing you and vehicle code enforcement later on, so in closing I have to say that I really don’t need them until a civil insurrection which they do have to prevent.Losing a few thousand poorly educated,poorly trained do nothings won’t hurt at all.Oh and they can’t stop neighborhood crime cause they are short handed.They couldn’t use drug trafficking video and they can’t sit and watch a drug dealors house due to the same shortage.The main problem is the neighborhood won’t help them enough.What the Hell does that mean?? I have to put my faith in Charles Daley and Smith and Wesson.
Jim Savage
I’m with baby67, French Benefits for everyone, or no one ! I’d like to hear more about this ” end meat ” stuff, and how hard it is to make it. Is it similar to Spam or hot dogs? Does it come from France ?
I think Orange county should stop paying taxes. Fire all government employes such as ; sheriff Fire fighters and Waste disposal. It should be every person for themselves. Then we should Build a giant church to live in like Crystal Cathedral. Just pray oh and pay the NRA to protect and govern us with good deeds. This will undoubtedly restored our economy and donut shops will be a thing of the past.
The Sheriff’s Department has never been run like a business. There is a huge lack of oversight for many positions where Sheriff’s Personal don’t do a lot of work. They also don’t have a clue how to lower the overtime. The departments answer has always been to cut all overtime for a short period and then give unlimited overtime. Sheriff Hutchens is out of her league. She needs help from private Business to manage the overtime and employee accountability