Obama/McCain Forum: A Saddleback FAQ
August 14th, 2008, 7:06 am · 23 Comments · posted by J. GALLEGO
Yesterday, Saddleback Church in Lake Forest sent out a press release answering some frequently asked questions about Saturday’s “Civil Forum on the Presidency” to explain the process of planning and pulling off the joint appearance of presumptive Presidential nominees Barack Obama and John McCain at the Lake Forest mega church.
The release talks about how the forum came about, what kinds of topics Pastor Rick Warren will talk to the candidates about (Stewardship, Leadership, World View, America’s Role in the World) and answers to questions raised on this very blog such as “Is this event a violation of church and state?” (No.) and “Does Dr. Warren endorse either candidate?” (No.).
The release also included biographical information on Rick Warren as well as some choice quotes from the media, which I did not include in this post.
Later today we’ll have more on the protests and rallies that will be held outside “The Forum”, meanwhile click below for the answers to the questions everyone is asking.
SADDLEBACK CIVIL FORUM
ON THE PRESIDENCY
with Sens. John McCain & Barack Obama
August 16, 2008
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FOR THE MEDIA
What is the Saddleback Civil Forum?
The Saddleback Civil Forum is a monthly forum for Southern California intended to promote personal responsibility, social civility, and spiritual maturity, held on the 120 acre campus of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. World leaders in science, business, education, the arts, entertainment, government, health, and religion are invited to speak on subjects of community interest. Sometimes speakers are ordinary people with extraordinary stories, such as a recent forum when five Jewish holocaust survivors shared how they survived the World War II death camps.
How did the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency come about?
On July 2nd, after efforts by another organization failed to get the two candidates together, Dr. Rick Warren personally contacted the candidates out of his relationship with both men, and invited them to Saddleback’s Civil Forum for August. Both agreed to participate on two conditions: 1) that Dr. Warren ask all the questions — instead of a panel, or from the audience — and 2) that it be open for all national media to cover as news or carry via live video feed from Saddleback, as opposed to co-sponsorship by any one network or outlet, as was done during the primary campaigns.
After so many debates among candidates throughout the primaries, what makes this event unique?
This will be the first joint appearance of the two presumptive nominees of both parties for President, and one of only four joint appearances of the campaigns, including three debates planned for later this fall. It is also the final general appearance by either candidate before they go into hiatus prior to their respective conventions. And, as far as we know, it is the first time that a church pastor has ever moderated an event, in a local church, featuring the two major candidates for President.
What will be the format of the Forum on the Presidency?
The two-hour format will be held in a non-debate format, from 5 pm to 7 pm PDT. Dr. Warren will have a separate long-form conversation with each candidate for about 50 minutes.
To avoid bias, and give America a true and fair comparison the questions to both candidates will be identical to provide a fair comparison, although the follow-up questions may differ, based on their response.
Sen. Barack Obama will be interviewed first, as determined by a flip of a coin. To insure fairness, Sen. McCain will not hear the questions during the first hour. Between the two interviews, the candidates will appear together on stage for photographs.
What kind of questions will Dr. Warren ask?
Dr. Warren has been soliciting and considering questions from leaders representing all sectors and sides for over a month. First, he invited the 250,000 American pastors and church leaders who subscribe to his weekly newsletter to email their “heartland” questions. Next, he put together a team of experts in various areas to help him shape the questions on their area of expertise (i.e. religious persecution, AIDS, hiring freedom, abortion, etc.)
Questions from debates and town hall meetings typically deal with hot political topics like the war, the border, the price of oil and reaction to campaign statements. While important questions to ask, these tend to be short-term issues on which the candidates have repeatedly stated their positions.
The Saddleback Civil Forum will focus on the core convictions of each candidate that would shape how each one would lead and their views on America’s role, direction, and culture. Each interview will be segmented into four themes:
STEWARDSHIP: Questions on the constitution, the role of government, security, education, and energy.
LEADERSHIP: Questions on personal character, competence, convictions, and experience to be president.
WORLDVIEW: Questions on life, family, evil, freedom, Christianity, and Islam.
AMERICA’S ROLE IN THE WORLD: Questions on going to war, on America’s responsibility to bless other nations, poverty and disease, human rights, religious liberty, corruption, and their vision for America.
Is this event a violation of church and state?
When asked this question in media interviews, Dr. Warren has given this response: “Of course not — it has no government sponsorship. I believe in the separation of church and state, but I do not believe in the separation of faith and politics, because faith is simply a worldview and everyone has some type of worldview. Whether you are an atheist, secularist, Buddhist, communist, Christian or any other faith, you have a worldview. Your worldview is your personal database that you reference to make every decision. Any leader who claims that he will “not allow his faith to influence his decisions” is either ignorant or dishonest, as that is impossible to do. Leaders make decisions based on their values, or worldview, so it is entirely appropriate for voters to want to know what a candidate’s worldview is.”
Does Dr. Warren intend to endorse either candidate?
No. First, the law prohibits non-profit 501(c)3 organizations such as churches from making official endorsements. Second, Dr. Warren believes it is inappropriate for pastors to make personal endorsements of political candidates, since pastors must shepherd all the flock, regardless of their political persuasion.
Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama have both been friends of Dr. Warren before they began their run for President. He knows many leaders from both parties, including six of the candidates who ran for the Presidency, but he has never endorsed any candidate.
At the 2006 Saddleback Global Summit on AIDS and the Church, Barack Obama participated as one of 60 speakers. At that annual event the following year, Hillary Clinton appeared in person. John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Barack Obama and John Edwards joined via video to share their plans for addressing HIV/AIDS if elected to national office.
Why did Dr. Warren invite the candidates to the Saddleback Civil Forum?
Dr. Warren wanted to provide a different context and climate for the candidates to let the faith community and the entire electorate know who they are and how they will lead b sharing not just what is in their heads, but also in their hearts. He is not a political pundit, but a pastor who deals with the real life, daily life concerns of average Americans, and he wants to ask objective, but tough questions about those issues. Dr. Warren intended for a panel to interview the candidates, but both presumptive nominees asked that he alone ask the questions, expressing their trust in him to provide a fair and civil format.
How many people will attend the Forum?
Each campaign was provided 100 seats, and approximately 5,000 more tickets are being distributed to Saddleback Church members and regular attenders through a drawing in seven categories. For security reasons, only individuals with tickets and accredited, credentialed working media will be allowed on the church campus.
Will there be an opportunity to meet the candidates?
There will be no opportunity for autographs, photographs, shaking hands or meeting with either presumptive nominee.
Who is handling the security for the event?
The Secret Service. No phones, cameras, purses, or recording device will be allowed. The Campus will be closed the day before. This is a church event, not a public event, and only those with tickets will be allowed on campus.
Will there be media facilities?
Yes, though due to Secret Service requirements for background checks, the deadline for media credentials closed on August 8. Media with credentialing questions or requiring additional information are asked to contact A. Larry Ross Communications. Phone: 972-267-1111. Email: media@rickwarrennews.com.
Is any other organization involved with the Saddleback Civil Forum?
No. This is a Saddleback Church event.
What else is happening related to the Civil Forum this weekend?
Dr. Warren had hoped to host an interfaith reception prior to the Forum but scheduling prevented that from happening.
The morning after the Civil Forum, Sunday, August 17, Dr. Warren will deliver a non-partisan message at Saddleback Church entitled “The Kind of Leadership America Needs.” National news agencies have expressed interest in broadcasting it.
What will be the focus of Dr. Warren’s Sunday morning message?
The message will be about the necessity and nature of effective leadership. Dr. Warren has advised many presidents and world leaders. “The Kind of Leadership America Needs,” will be based on what the Bible says about servant leadership, his 35 year personal study of leadership, and his experiences in having trained more than 400,000 leaders in 162 countries over the past 28 years. Dr. Warren has taught on leadership at Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, The University of Judaism, the Davos World Economic Forum, the Aspen Institute, the United Nations, and at many international congresses. He was selected by “U.S. News & World Report” as one of America’s 25 Best Leaders. (See biography below).
Both candidates have publicly endorsed and supported the Global PEACE plan and the PEACE Coalition started by Dr. Warren. What is it?
The PEACE Plan is a strategy to combat five global problems that affect billions of people: spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic diseases and illiteracy/poor education. P.E.A.C.E. is an acrostic for Promote reconciliation, Equip servant leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick and Educate the next generation. The PEACE Coalition is a network of networks, creating partnerships between the public, profit, and faith sectors b governments, businesses, and churches.
Currently, the P.E.A.C.E. Plan is being developed in 68 countries. Over the past four years, Saddleback Church has sent 7,776 members on more than 1,000 PEACE teams to work internationally in 68 countries. For additional endorsements and information visit www.thepeaceplan.com
Endorsement of the PEACE Coalition by Sen. John McCain
“The consistent message of the Gospels calls us to recognize that all life is sacred because all human beings are created in the image of God, and Jesus commanded us to love our neighbors as ourselves. The billions affected by poverty, diseases, illiteracy, and oppressive or corrupt governments are our neighbors and they deserve our compassion, support and comfort. They are living without hope, happiness or good health. This is why we need the PEACE Plan and the PEACE Coalition. Together as individuals, churches, corporations, and countries we must do all we can to cooperate in eradicating these ‘giant problems.’ The mobilization of local churches to aid, educate and empower others through the PEACE Plan has already made an impact on these problems and will only increase. I am so grateful for the PEACE Plan and I thank Rick and Kay Warren for their leadership worldwide.”
Endorsement of the PEACE Coalition by Sen. Barack Obama
“Through the PEACE Plan, thousands of partners are acting on the belief that the challenges we face today are not simply technical problems in search of a ten-point plan. They are moral problems, rooted in both individual callousness and societal indifference, due to the imperfections of man. The PEACE Plan marshals the hard work and good will of churches, placing trust in the limitless power of a living and awesome God. It proclaims with loving witness that the weary and heavy-laden across the globe can find rest and strength in the arms of their brothers and sisters — ordinary people empowered by God to change the world. Michelle and I will be praying fervently for the success of the PEACE Coalition. Moreover, as partners, and as friends we will be working with Rick and Kay Warren and all Americans willing to see that the aims of this great plan are realized. God’s call to be our brother’s keeper and our sister’s keeper requires of us nothing less.”



















August 14th, 2008 at 11:22 am
What about hunger and poverty right here in OC. Members of Saddleback Church are living in their cars, if they have one, because they’ve lost their jobs and homes. What about Global Peace in our own backyard??? I don’t believe that the son of God will be glorified with this. It’s all about Pastor Rick and his ego..
August 14th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I am praying the NAME OF JESUS will be spoken & GLORIFIED I know this is a political forum, but nothing is above the name of JESUS and it is in the House of GOD.The answer to everything in life is found in the sufficiency of CHRIST and HE is to receive the GLORY
August 14th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Yolanda - please do some homework before spewing out spiteful, offensive and misguided accusations. The PEACE plan is all about glorifying the Son of God and is global (which means it encompasses the entire world, including here in OC). It’s purpose is to identify opportunites for ordinary, caring individuals to serve the less fortunate locally, nationally and internationally and provide them with the means and support to do so effectively. Saddleback currently runs several local PEACE programs to benefit the poor, elderly and infirm, including a motel outreach for the homeless, an elderly outreach program, a meals on wheels type program, a children’s after-school program in Santa Ana, a military outreach program at Camp Pendleton, a food pantry and many, many more.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I just can’t wait to see McCan’t blow it one of these days and call Obamayourmama the N word!
that would be freakin hilarious!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Tracy Lee if you are my neighbor…please move.
August 14th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
How preposterous!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I would hope Dr. Warren would not buy into the two-party system and invite a major third party candidate such as Bob Barr of the LP. Americans are really tired of the two party system and are desparate for more choices. Dr. Warren is uniquely positioned to kick-start a larger debate that the two major parties are terrified of starting. As long as we continue to elect Repuplicans and Democrats there will be no significant change in Washington.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
You just have to love the line: “two presumptive nominees of both parties for President.”
I agree with Yolanda, it is all about Rick and his ego. Nothing about preserving the principles of this great nation.
August 14th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Geesh guys. Why are you so critical and negative? Do you think your attitude pleases God? The Bible says ‘judge not, lest you also be judged’. We don’t know the heart of Dr. Warren or anyone else - only God knows the heart. So, no judging, but we are to be fruit inspectors. I see a lot of good fruit coming from Saddleback. I don’t go to Saddleback, but I have many friends who do go there and Jesus has deeply touched and ministered to them there. I admire and respect Rick Warren for his leadership and servanthood. The next time you catch yourself having a critical spirit about Mr. Warren or anybody else, I would encourage you to stop, take a deep breath, and pray for that person.
August 14th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
If those five points are the aspirations of your P.E.A.C.E. group — and given that your church is in Calaifornia — why was Ralph Nader, who is also on the ballot in your state, not invited to participate.
Look at thos five “hopes” of your group again. Leaving aside the first, where it may be questionable which of the three can claim the best record, if you look at the last four things you claim to be interested in promoting, is there any doubt in the mind of any fair person that Ralph Nader has done about ten time more to promote those values over his lifetime than either Obama or McCain?
C’mon, Pastor, let Nader address your congregation, too !!!
August 14th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
What does it mean that my comment “is awaiting moderation”?
August 15th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Will this be televised?
August 15th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Crispa I judge you as a fool for belief in a sky fairy.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:46 am
What does the Bible say about marriage? Do the candidates and their party platform support defining marriage as only between a man and a woman? Marriage license no longer use “bride” and “groom” on them, just party A and party B. Our children are better off if raised by a father and mother. Family values are at stake, what do Obama and McCain say about family values. Also, Do they support AB777 which forces all school material(books) to be gender neutral?
August 15th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Yolanda..do your homework. Saddleback church was the the to do 40 days of food for all the homeless in OC. All three meals for 40 days.
I applaud Pastor Rick for doing this.
Who said it was about Rick and his ego..do you know his History? I doubt it because e has givin himself to so many countries including the US. Have you seen what he does for the poor in OC or how quickly he was responding to Katrina.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Rick Warren is a hypocrite. After attending Saddleback Church for many years and being an extremely active member I finally left after it was apparent the Rick Warren is a hypocrite. Yolanda is indeed correct - Warren and those under him do ignore the needs of those in Orange County (I personally know of many people Warren and his underlings harmed) while, at the same time, Warren gallivants around the world trying to make an even bigger name of himself. This latest stunt is just another example of Warren’s hypocrisy - after stating for many years that his church is NOT interested in politics, one of the most evil members of Warren’s cult, “Pastor” Glen Kreun (who Christianity Today states is the “is the executive pastor of Saddleback Church”, sent out an e-mail yesterday that stated, “Rick Warren personally contacted the candidates out of his relationship with both men” and, just a moment ago, Warren just sent another e-mail that tells those that members should, “Ignore the media hype! ”
Yes, that’s right, Warren is now sending out e-mails telling those that question his hypercritical actions to “Ignore the media hype!” The media needs to do a full-blown investigation into what really happens at Saddleback, find out about the people that Warren’s church HARMS, the hypocritical nonsense that happens there on a regular basis, and look into allegations that tomorrow’s PR stunt by Warren is also co-sponsored by “Faith in Public Life” - an organization that most would consider to be 180 degrees from what Warren allegedly “preaches” at his church.
BTW, how many people coughed up the $2,000 to Warren for tickets to the McCain/Obama show?
August 15th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Forgot to mention - anyone else notice that Warren is now dying his hair? What’s wrong? Is Warren now ASHAMED of the way God made him?
August 15th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Rick needs to determine when and by whom Obama was baptised. Jermiah Wright baptised Obama two children but it is my understanding that Obama has never chosen to be
baptised.
Mel
August 16th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
They’re not debating each other because there’s no significant differences between the two. Both support using government coercion to get people to do things they wouldn’t do voluntarily. Both support legal tender laws that force us to use the Federal Reserve’s monopoly money(let’s see if its worth anything in 5 years). Both support our current monetary policy which is one dramatic business cycle after another all the while the dollar is constantly losing its value. Both support spending trillions upon trillions of dollars we don’t have. How do they spend money we don’t have? The ask the Federal Reserve to print more money which devalues every other dollar already in existence. Our foreign policy of empire building will be expanded by both of them. We don’t need military bases all over the world and we cannot afford it. Obama and McCain are both going to lead us straight to hell. Our empire is crumbling and when the dollar loses all its value, America will lose its middle class.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Will he ask them about biblical issues, such as the biblical view of marriage, abortion, and what about their interpretation of 1 Corinthians 6:9? How about how they interpret the First Amendment:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
August 16th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Is a full transcript on line somewhere?
August 17th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Can someone tell me why CNN is reporting that Pastor Rick Warren was either lying or mistaken and today admitted that when he announced to the qworld that John McCain was safely locked away in a “cone of silence” he was not even present at the church yet.//!!!!????
I had a great suspicion that McCain sounded rehearsed and probably had access to the questions ahead of time, and I had them confirmed when CNN stated this today! What a dishonarable thing to do! And before you maniacs out there start attacking me like a vicious dog, get the facts! Americans deserve to know the truth.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Obama answered questions thoughtfully and wisely. I believe he is a sincere man and he will be president. What i like about Obama is that he speaks from the heart and seems to be in touch with the average people of the united states of america.
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